Comments on: In defence of Facebook (sort of) http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/ Scrapbook of a labor-geek - Unions 2.0 in the UK and around the world Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:43:00 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: admin http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-924 admin Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:17:46 +0000 http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/#comment-924 True Wade, but I think we're talking different things here. The amazing campaign in Oz was the work of hundreds of organisers, with tens of thousands of activists and a multi-million ad budget through a levy from millions of members - though it did have hundreds of offshoot activities which were small affairs that contributed to the core. What we're seeing a lot on Facebook is campaign groups where an organiser gets a couple hundred members to join, as a kind of online petition, and it's not having a lot of effect. You're right about some small things growing though, and there will be ways to actively mobilise people better here that could contribute more than passive membership of small groups. True Wade, but I think we’re talking different things here. The amazing campaign in Oz was the work of hundreds of organisers, with tens of thousands of activists and a multi-million ad budget through a levy from millions of members – though it did have hundreds of offshoot activities which were small affairs that contributed to the core. What we’re seeing a lot on Facebook is campaign groups where an organiser gets a couple hundred members to join, as a kind of online petition, and it’s not having a lot of effect. You’re right about some small things growing though, and there will be ways to actively mobilise people better here that could contribute more than passive membership of small groups.

]]> By: wade http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-922 wade Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:53:14 +0000 http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/#comment-922 Now I’m not able to point to any great union successes here, and this is unsurprisingly a rather big flaw in my arguments against Eric’s article. A few hundred in a campaign group here, a few hundred there aren’t going to change the world, I am sorry but a few hundred in a capaign can change the world . You only have to look at History to see that . For Example a on line campaign with TV and radio by the union movment of Australia Successfully brough down goverment at election. That was 20 millon people who voted. Not bad for a few hundred organizer from the Union . Small things grow to big things just like face book. Now I’m not able to point to any great union successes here, and this is unsurprisingly a rather big flaw in my arguments against Eric’s article. A few hundred in a campaign group here, a few hundred there aren’t going to change the world,

I am sorry but a few hundred in a capaign can change the world . You only have to look at History to see that . For Example a on line campaign with TV and radio by the union movment of Australia Successfully brough down goverment at election. That was 20 millon people who voted. Not bad for a few hundred organizer from the Union . Small things grow to big things just like face book.

]]> By: Education Not For Sale http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-921 Education Not For Sale Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:23:18 +0000 http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/#comment-921 [...] Wood, who took the initiative to set up the Facebook group to protest the ban on Derek, has written a response to my article, which is worth reading in full. He too is not uncritical of [...] [...] Wood, who took the initiative to set up the Facebook group to protest the ban on Derek, has written a response to my article, which is worth reading in full. He too is not uncritical of [...]

]]> By: johninnit » Blog Archive » Whoosh! http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-915 johninnit » Blog Archive » Whoosh! Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:14:00 +0000 http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/#comment-915 [...] I don’t believe it was solely the wonderful viral potential of the social network (as I was banging on about the other day). Possibly more significant in the development was the fact it made the lighthearted news slot (not [...] [...] I don’t believe it was solely the wonderful viral potential of the social network (as I was banging on about the other day). Possibly more significant in the development was the fact it made the lighthearted news slot (not [...]

]]> By: johninnit » Blog Archive » Free the Blackadder One! http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-897 johninnit » Blog Archive » Free the Blackadder One! Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:33:27 +0000 http://www.johninnit.co.uk/2008/01/23/in-defence-of-facebook-sort-of/#comment-897 [...] « In defence of Facebook (sort of) [...] [...] « In defence of Facebook (sort of) [...]

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